Authenticate This PROENZA SCHOULER

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Hey guys! Haven't been on tpf awhile since I went off bags for a bit (ha ha!!) but now that I've started working in an office full-time I've been looking at bags I could throw my laptop in and just schlep around on the bike to work...and I got drawn into the PS world :biggrin:

I bought this PS1 from a local seller on an app called KleiderKreisel (in Germany). I thought it was a Medium at first but doing some more research into the size it looks like it's an Extra Large but missing the detachable shoulder strap. Seller says her mum bought it back in the day so maybe it's an older version?

Item name: PS1 Extra Large in Black Suede with Brass HW

Comments: It feels nice and weighty, and good quality, but from looking at other pictures of the XL and other people's authentication pictures I'm a little bit worried about the alignment of the PS stamp on the leather tag behind the zip as it sits so far up, as well as the other stamp being kinda faint.

The shoulder strap is also concerning as it's non-removable (held with rivets) and I'm not seeing this style of shoulder strap on the other bags on here. I understand XL usually comes with two straps. It doesn't bother me that the detachable one is gone as this is a good shoulder drop length for me.

I'm also concerned about the lack of swirly pattern (?) on the inside fabric, it's just a plain black lining with no patterns, as well as I can't find the white cloth tags inside the bag and metal Proenza Schouler tag on the outside of the bag that everyone else seems to have.

But then again X-Large seems to be a much rarer style than the Medium so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's just an older version of the XL... :| didnt come with dustbag.

Thanks so much in advance guys! Happy to be back amongst my purse comrades again :biggrin:
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IntheOcean

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Welcome back to the Purse Forum :smile:

This is a weird one! The seam on the bottom of the tag inside the pocket suggests it's an early model. Some of the features are correct, while others are completely not what I'd expect to see on a PS1.

My best guess would be: this is a prototype or a one-off promotional item or something like that. The detachable strap isn't gone, it's never been there in the first place - see the rings are only big enough to house one strap? The regular XL model would have elongated two-part rings. I would say the hangtag is also not missing, but simply wasn't there when the original owner got the bag.

However, all that is legit only if @Elliespurse deems the bag authentic. She's been doing this far longer than I have!
 

Elliespurse

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Hey guys! Haven't been on tpf awhile since I went off bags for a bit (ha ha!!) but now that I've started working in an office full-time I've been looking at bags I could throw my laptop in and just schlep around on the bike to work...and I got drawn into the PS world :biggrin:

I bought this PS1 from a local seller on an app called KleiderKreisel (in Germany). I thought it was a Medium at first but doing some more research into the size it looks like it's an Extra Large but missing the detachable shoulder strap. Seller says her mum bought it back in the day so maybe it's an older version?

Item name: PS1 Extra Large in Black Suede with Brass HW

Comments: It feels nice and weighty, and good quality, but from looking at other pictures of the XL and other people's authentication pictures I'm a little bit worried about the alignment of the PS stamp on the leather tag behind the zip as it sits so far up, as well as the other stamp being kinda faint.

The shoulder strap is also concerning as it's non-removable (held with rivets) and I'm not seeing this style of shoulder strap on the other bags on here. I understand XL usually comes with two straps. It doesn't bother me that the detachable one is gone as this is a good shoulder drop length for me.

I'm also concerned about the lack of swirly pattern (?) on the inside fabric, it's just a plain black lining with no patterns, as well as I can't find the white cloth tags inside the bag and metal Proenza Schouler tag on the outside of the bag that everyone else seems to have.

But then again X-Large seems to be a much rarer style than the Medium so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's just an older version of the XL... :| didnt come with dustbag.

Thanks so much in advance guys! Happy to be back amongst my purse comrades again :biggrin:
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Hi, too many things differ from a real PS1, lining and hw etc. It could be an early fake.
Thanks @IntheOcean
 
Apr 24, 2016
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Hi, too many things differ from a real PS1, lining and hw etc. It could be an early fake.
Thanks @IntheOcean
Thanks so much @IntheOcean and @Elliespurse. If I hadn't bought it already I would have stayed away from it ‍♂ PS even had a sample sale earlier this year, should have hopped on the train then rather than have to deal with all this returning etc. now

What would you guys recommend I do now? I paid via Paypal G&S so I could open a claim, would stating the difference in lining, shoulder strap and hardware be enough for me to justify that it's a fake? Thank you again!
 

br3wx

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Dear @Elliespurse @IntheOcean

Can you please kindly help me to authenticate this bag that I just bought off fashionphile?

Item: Proenza Schouler Lambskin Medium PS1 Satchel Black
Listing number: 571903
Link: http://www.fashionphile.com/proenza-schouler-lambskin-medium-ps1-satchel-black-571903
Comments: Been hunting down for my very first PS1 medium (black or midnight blue), but had been unsuccessful in my bids. This popped up on fashionphile and I couldn't wait and literally just bought the bag! I live in Asia and with the pandemic going on -I think I would only be receiving the bag a month later (or more!) Can you please help me to authenticate the bag?

Thank you so much in advance :smile:
 
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Elliespurse

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Dear @Elliespurse @IntheOcean

Can you please kindly please help me to authenticate this bag that I just bought off fashionphile?

Item: Proenza Schouler Lambskin Medium PS1 Satchel Black
Listing number: 571903
Link: http://www.fashionphile.com/proenza-schouler-lambskin-medium-ps1-satchel-black-571903
Comments: Been hunting down for my very first PS1 medium (black or midnight blue), but had been unsuccessful in my bids. This popped up on fashionphile and I couldn't wait and literally just bought the bag! I live in Asia and with the pandemic going on -I think I would only be receiving the bag a month later (or more!) Can you please help me to authenticate the bag?

Thank you so much in advance :smile:
Hi, everything looks ok and I'd say it's authentic.
Congrats!
 
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Bunnyluv9

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Jul 16, 2015
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Hi,
I'm thinking of buying this PS1 mini on Poshmark
Is this authentic?
Would appreciate any advice and expertise.
Thanks.
 

IntheOcean

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Hi,
I'm thinking of buying this PS1 mini on Poshmark
Is this authentic?
Would appreciate any advice and expertise.
Thanks.
Hi and welcome! :smile:

Wait for Elliespurse to confirm, but I believe this is authentic. It's not a Mini, though. It's a Pouch. Quite roomier, with a very long strap that is usually shortened by tying a knot. It's at least 7 years old, but seems to be in pretty good condition. Beautiful color, too.
 
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Bunnyluv9

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Jul 16, 2015
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Hi and welcome! :smile:

Wait for Elliespurse to confirm, but I believe this is authentic. It's not a Mini, though. It's a Pouch. Quite roomier, with a very long strap that is usually shortened by tying a knot. It's at least 7 years old, but seems to be in pretty good condition. Beautiful color, too.
Thank you:smile:
 
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